The Metal Gear Solid 4 Mega-Hype Thread | 56k (moved)

[QUOTE="aka_aj03"]

Kojima never mentioned about the cloning process Les Enfants Terribles or how did it take place and what procedures it was use to clone three Snakes.

This might be a spoiler for MGSIV....

The cloning process was not like what they show in the movie 6th Day, but I believe that Snakes were born as natural birth and Eva was who carried the babies, first it was Twins Snake then she she gave birth to Solidus... who knows if she only carried Solid and Liquid and only gave birth to the Twins Snake..

Just think about it... Eva is Big Mama... love interest of Snake's "biological" father Big Boss, Eva greets Solid Snake with a direct request: "Call me mama. Big Mama!

bstarter29

Actually he did mention that Les Enfants Terrible was a cloning project. Liquid explains it in MGS. It was a government experiment because the military wanted more "super soldiers" like Big Boss. But due to his radiation exposure at Bikini Atoll, he became unable to reproduce (the reason Eva can't be the mother). They cloned 8 I think, but to make sure that some survived, they killed off the rest to make Snake and Liquid stronger.

Keep Crunching out the game Konami!!!!!!!!!

Your almost there!:D

:o Nice thread Fuzzy, challenging Willy105's with this one.

Do you know what areas are getting the 80Gig MGS4 PS3 bundle? I've yet to get a PS3 and live in the UK. What's my chances?

SgtWhiskeyjack

Thanks, Wiskey.

Unfortunately, there are no official announcements regarding the 80GB MGS4 bundle for Europe. There have been whisperings among different sites about the possibility of it coming to the UK, but as of now those rumors are unconfirmed.

Fuzzy, awesome job with this thread man. I can't believe how hyped and excited I am for this game, and I still haven't finished Snake Eater...need to get on that soon!Chutebox

Ahh, Snake Eater...what a great game. The ending is really one of the best game experiences in my memory...

[QUOTE="bstarter29"][QUOTE="aka_aj03"]

Kojima never mentioned about the cloning process Les Enfants Terribles or how did it take place and what procedures it was use to clone three Snakes.

This might be a spoiler for MGSIV....

The cloning process was not like what they show in the movie 6th Day, but I believe that Snakes were born as natural birth and Eva was who carried the babies, first it was Twins Snake then she she gave birth to Solidus... who knows if she only carried Solid and Liquid and only gave birth to the Twins Snake..

Just think about it... Eva is Big Mama... love interest of Snake's "biological" father Big Boss, Eva greets Solid Snake with a direct request: "Call me mama. Big Mama!

aka_aj03

Actually he did mention that Les Enfants Terrible was a cloning project. Liquid explains it in MGS. It was a government experiment because the military wanted more "super soldiers" like Big Boss. But due to his radiation exposure at Bikini Atoll, he became unable to reproduce (the reason Eva can't be the mother). They cloned 8 I think, but to make sure that some survived, they killed off the rest to make Snake and Liquid stronger.

I see...

I thought I remember there being mention of them being test tubes, or something. And plus, why would they need a host for the fetuses? Also, they would need to fertalize the egg, something that can't be done because Big Boss can't make a da babies.

just thought that this godly thread needed a bump, can't wait till next week when the MGS collection comes out. Imma play so much MGS its gonna be amazing. can't wait for subsistance with the diff camera view. gonna be awesome. XturnalS

I'm debating whether or not I should get the collection...

It doesn't have the Metal Gear games, and since I already have MGS 1-3, I don't feel compelled to buy the same thing. But the box set is a very nice collector's item. To spend $30 or not to spend $30? 3 MGS games or 3 bags of QFC chicken? That is the question.

[QUOTE="XturnalS"]just thought that this godly thread needed a bump, can't wait till next week when the MGS collection comes out. Imma play so much MGS its gonna be amazing. can't wait for subsistance with the diff camera view. gonna be awesome. fuzzysquash

I'm debating whether or not I should get the collection...

It doesn't have the Metal Gear games, and since I already have MGS 1-3, I don't feel compelled to buy the same thing. But the box set is a very nice collector's item. To spend $30 or not to spend $30? 3 MGS games or 3 bags of QFC chicken? That is the question.

well its an ez buy for me, i dont have MGS and although i have both the orignal MGS2 and 3. I want to play through 3 with the new camera which should be really fun because the biggest gripe with SE was the camera. And its a nice collectors item which will look good on my video game/ movie shelf.

I'm really excited about the bosses.

What were your favourite boss fights from MGS3, people?

The End was the best for me I thought. Very original!

I'm really excited about the bosses.

What were your favourite boss fights from MGS3, people?

The End was the best for me I thought. Very original!

the-very-best

Yeah The end was great and had such a cat and mouse feel to it. I liked the Fury's fight too. The Shogohod and Volgin fights were good too.

Vamp battle for 2 was cool as was the harrier. Not to mention the duel against solidus was awesome. Love that HF blade.

[QUOTE="the-very-best"]

I'm really excited about the bosses.

What were your favourite boss fights from MGS3, people?

The End was the best for me I thought. Very original!

XturnalS

Yeah The end was great and had such a cat and mouse feel to it. I liked the Fury's fight too. The Shogohod and Volgin fights were good too.

Vamp battle for 2 was cool as was the harrier. Not to mention the duel against solidus was awesome. Love that HF blade.

there was a surrogate mother. the egg didn't need to be fertilized, because the complete DNA from Big Boss, transplanted into the egg cell, would consitute a whole potential being.Mordred19

That's right, I do remember Liquid mentioning something about a mother now. And it is very likely that Eva could've volunteered to be the host, but I choose not believe that. I like to think of "Big Mama" as meaning something like her playing a bigger role than we can imagine. Maybe it was because she was the first woman to capture Big Boss's heart that wasn't his mentor, or maybe she had a helping, or leading hand in forming the Patriots that we know from MGS2.

[QUOTE="XturnalS"]just thought that this godly thread needed a bump, can't wait till next week when the MGS collection comes out. Imma play so much MGS its gonna be amazing. can't wait for subsistance with the diff camera view. gonna be awesome. fuzzysquash

I'm debating whether or not I should get the collection...

It doesn't have the Metal Gear games, and since I already have MGS 1-3, I don't feel compelled to buy the same thing. But the box set is a very nice collector's item. To spend $30 or not to spend $30? 3 MGS games or 3 bags of QFC chicken? That is the question.

It comes with the Metal Gear games. It has MGS3: Subsistence in the collection which has Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake. That's the main reason I'm getting it. I own MGS2 1-3, but not the enhanced version of 2 and 3.

[QUOTE="XturnalS"]just thought that this godly thread needed a bump, can't wait till next week when the MGS collection comes out. Imma play so much MGS its gonna be amazing. can't wait for subsistance with the diff camera view. gonna be awesome. fuzzysquash

I'm debating whether or not I should get the collection...

It doesn't have the Metal Gear games, and since I already have MGS 1-3, I don't feel compelled to buy the same thing. But the box set is a very nice collector's item. To spend $30 or not to spend $30? 3 MGS games or 3 bags of QFC chicken? That is the question.

[QUOTE="fuzzysquash"]

[QUOTE="XturnalS"]just thought that this godly thread needed a bump, can't wait till next week when the MGS collection comes out. Imma play so much MGS its gonna be amazing. can't wait for subsistance with the diff camera view. gonna be awesome. bstarter29

I'm debating whether or not I should get the collection...

It doesn't have the Metal Gear games, and since I already have MGS 1-3, I don't feel compelled to buy the same thing. But the box set is a very nice collector's item. To spend $30 or not to spend $30? 3 MGS games or 3 bags of QFC chicken? That is the question.

It comes with the Metal Gear games. It has MGS3: Subsistence in the collection which has Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake. That's the main reason I'm getting it. I own MGS2 1-3, but not the enhanced version of 2 and 3.

I don't think it does--I could be wrong. But I've done some extensive research on this, and seems like MG1 & 2 were on the extra disc in the Japanese release. But since extra discs are not included in the upcoming N. American release, I don't think they're included. Also, I thought I remember Ryan mentioning on the podcast that they won't be. I hope they will be, though.

[QUOTE="bstarter29"][QUOTE="fuzzysquash"]

[QUOTE="XturnalS"]just thought that this godly thread needed a bump, can't wait till next week when the MGS collection comes out. Imma play so much MGS its gonna be amazing. can't wait for subsistance with the diff camera view. gonna be awesome. fuzzysquash

I'm debating whether or not I should get the collection...

It doesn't have the Metal Gear games, and since I already have MGS 1-3, I don't feel compelled to buy the same thing. But the box set is a very nice collector's item. To spend $30 or not to spend $30? 3 MGS games or 3 bags of QFC chicken? That is the question.

It comes with the Metal Gear games. It has MGS3: Subsistence in the collection which has Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake. That's the main reason I'm getting it. I own MGS2 1-3, but not the enhanced version of 2 and 3.

I don't think it does--I could be wrong. But I've done some extensive research on this, and seems like MG1 & 2 were on the extra disc in the Japanese release. But since extra discs are not included in the upcoming N. American release, I don't think they're included. Also, I thought I remember Ryan mentioning on the podcast that they won't be. I hope they will be, though.

Hmm...I rented it when it came out just so I could play the original 2, but I remember them being on disc 1. Maybe I was wrong, I don't know. But if they're not included, that totally sucks. I won't being buying it then.

[QUOTE="bstarter29"][QUOTE="fuzzysquash"]

[QUOTE="XturnalS"]just thought that this godly thread needed a bump, can't wait till next week when the MGS collection comes out. Imma play so much MGS its gonna be amazing. can't wait for subsistance with the diff camera view. gonna be awesome. fuzzysquash

I'm debating whether or not I should get the collection...

It doesn't have the Metal Gear games, and since I already have MGS 1-3, I don't feel compelled to buy the same thing. But the box set is a very nice collector's item. To spend $30 or not to spend $30? 3 MGS games or 3 bags of QFC chicken? That is the question.

It comes with the Metal Gear games. It has MGS3: Subsistence in the collection which has Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake. That's the main reason I'm getting it. I own MGS2 1-3, but not the enhanced version of 2 and 3.

I don't think it does--I could be wrong. But I've done some extensive research on this, and seems like MG1 & 2 were on the extra disc in the Japanese release. But since extra discs are not included in the upcoming N. American release, I don't think they're included. Also, I thought I remember Ryan mentioning on the podcast that they won't be. I hope they will be, though.

Damn. I think you're right. I checked Gamestop and it said it'll have the originals in there, but everyone else around the web says it's false. Oh well, I guess I'll just buy Subsistence on its own.

I'm really excited about the bosses.

What were your favourite boss fights from MGS3, people?

The End was the best for me I thought. Very original!

the-very-best

Yeah. The End was pretty good.

For me, it was definitely the last boss battle with The Boss. I still remember the expression on my face when I first pointed my gun at her and she ran up to me, dismantled the weapon and left it in pieces all around me before I could fire a single round.

I don't know about Crying Wolf, Laughing Octopus, Raging Raven... but Kojima is going to make us do something crazy with Screaming Mantis in order to defeat her like he did with PsychoMantis in MGS1... What do you think?

PS: You know how Kojima is inspired by movies, books, religion, etc for his games.... I think Screaming Mantis is inspired from Kali: Hindu Goddess of death and destruction. This is just my opinion... because they both are females and both like cause death and destruction and both look similar... you may say Screaming Mantis is the future version of Kali....

[QUOTE="Mordred19"]there was a surrogate mother. the egg didn't need to be fertilized, because the complete DNA from Big Boss, transplanted into the egg cell, would consitute a whole potential being.bstarter29

That's right, I do remember Liquid mentioning something about a mother now. And it is very likely that Eva could've volunteered to be the host, but I choose not believe that. I like to think of "Big Mama" as meaning something like her playing a bigger role than we can imagine. Maybe it was because she was the first woman to capture Big Boss's heart that wasn't his mentor, or maybe she had a helping, or leading hand in forming the Patriots that we know from MGS2.

The words "Big Mama" actually do have a close link to the Patriots in MGS2.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_mama

[QUOTE="bstarter29"]

[QUOTE="Mordred19"]there was a surrogate mother. the egg didn't need to be fertilized, because the complete DNA from Big Boss, transplanted into the egg cell, would consitute a whole potential being.Lab392

That's right, I do remember Liquid mentioning something about a mother now. And it is very likely that Eva could've volunteered to be the host, but I choose not believe that. I like to think of "Big Mama" as meaning something like her playing a bigger role than we can imagine. Maybe it was because she was the first woman to capture Big Boss's heart that wasn't his mentor, or maybe she had a helping, or leading hand in forming the Patriots that we know from MGS2.

The words "Big Mama" actually do have a close link to the Patriots in MGS2.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_mama

Ahh interesting. I dind't know that.

Screaming mantis looks insane !AgentA-Mi6

All i know is topping the Metal Gear Solid boss fights have been tough for Kojima. 2 had some good ones, but fatman and fortune were iffy.

MGS 3 had the worst. THe only good one was The Boss. The End is overrated.

But the first one. Can u say amazing?

Ocelot, Gray Fox, Psycho Mantis

THe tank, THe Hind D, Metal Gear Rex

2 sniper showdowns with Sniper Wolf, one in a blurry snowfield(imagine what they could have done with that boss fight with todays horsepower)

Volcan Raven

Liquid.

The game was just amazing. I hope MGS 4 can make a good run at MGS 1.

All i know is topping the Metal Gear Solid boss fights have been tough for Kojima. 2 had some good ones, but fatman and fortune were iffy.

MGS 3 had the worst. THe only good one was The Boss. The End is overrated.

But the first one. Can u say amazing?

Ocelot, Gray Fox, Psycho Mantis

THe tank, THe Hind D, Metal Gear Rex

2 sniper showdowns with Sniper Wolf, one in a blurry snowfield(imagine what they could have done with that boss fight with todays horsepower)

Volcan Raven

Liquid.

The game was just amazing. I hope MGS 4 can make a good run at MGS 1.

jg4xchamp

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]

All i know is topping the Metal Gear Solid boss fights have been tough for Kojima. 2 had some good ones, but fatman and fortune were iffy.

MGS 3 had the worst. THe only good one was The Boss. The End is overrated.

But the first one. Can u say amazing?

Ocelot, Gray Fox, Psycho Mantis

THe tank, THe Hind D, Metal Gear Rex

2 sniper showdowns with Sniper Wolf, one in a blurry snowfield(imagine what they could have done with that boss fight with todays horsepower)

Volcan Raven

Liquid.

The game was just amazing. I hope MGS 4 can make a good run at MGS 1.

uRan_Ehr

All i know is topping the Metal Gear Solid boss fights have been tough for Kojima. 2 had some good ones, but fatman and fortune were iffy.

MGS 3 had the worst. THe only good one was The Boss. The End is overrated.

But the first one. Can u say amazing?

Ocelot, Gray Fox, Psycho Mantis

THe tank, THe Hind D, Metal Gear Rex

2 sniper showdowns with Sniper Wolf, one in a blurry snowfield(imagine what they could have done with that boss fight with todays horsepower)

Volcan Raven

Liquid.

The game was just amazing. I hope MGS 4 can make a good run at MGS 1.

jg4xchamp

Agreed 100%. Psycho Mantis is the greatest and most clever boss battle ever in a video game.

I don't if MGS4 can duplicate or match MGS, but I think it's gonna be pretty damn close. I'm really looking foward to the Raging Raven and Screamin Mantis battles. But I don't think any words will be able to describe the epicness of the Rex vs. Ray Solid/Liquid showdown.

[QUOTE="uRan_Ehr"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]

All i know is topping the Metal Gear Solid boss fights have been tough for Kojima. 2 had some good ones, but fatman and fortune were iffy.

MGS 3 had the worst. THe only good one was The Boss. The End is overrated.

But the first one. Can u say amazing?

Ocelot, Gray Fox, Psycho Mantis

THe tank, THe Hind D, Metal Gear Rex

2 sniper showdowns with Sniper Wolf, one in a blurry snowfield(imagine what they could have done with that boss fight with todays horsepower)

Volcan Raven

Liquid.

The game was just amazing. I hope MGS 4 can make a good run at MGS 1.

aka_aj03

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]

All i know is topping the Metal Gear Solid boss fights have been tough for Kojima. 2 had some good ones, but fatman and fortune were iffy.

MGS 3 had the worst. THe only good one was The Boss. The End is overrated.

But the first one. Can u say amazing?

Ocelot, Gray Fox, Psycho Mantis

THe tank, THe Hind D, Metal Gear Rex

2 sniper showdowns with Sniper Wolf, one in a blurry snowfield(imagine what they could have done with that boss fight with todays horsepower)

Volcan Raven

Liquid.

The game was just amazing. I hope MGS 4 can make a good run at MGS 1.

bstarter29

Agreed 100%. Psycho Mantis is the greatest and most clever boss battle ever in a video game.

I don't if MGS4 can duplicate or match MGS, but I think it's gonna be pretty damn close. I'm really looking foward to the Raging Raven and Screamin Mantis battles. But I don't think any words will be able to describe the epicness of the Rex vs. Ray Solid/Liquid showdown.

[QUOTE="aka_aj03"][QUOTE="uRan_Ehr"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]

All i know is topping the Metal Gear Solid boss fights have been tough for Kojima. 2 had some good ones, but fatman and fortune were iffy.

MGS 3 had the worst. THe only good one was The Boss. The End is overrated.

But the first one. Can u say amazing?

Ocelot, Gray Fox, Psycho Mantis

THe tank, THe Hind D, Metal Gear Rex

2 sniper showdowns with Sniper Wolf, one in a blurry snowfield(imagine what they could have done with that boss fight with todays horsepower)

Volcan Raven

Liquid.

The game was just amazing. I hope MGS 4 can make a good run at MGS 1.

jg4xchamp

its not that it was hard or easy, its that it was very unique and immensely fun

[QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"]Screaming mantis looks insane !uRan_Ehr

[QUOTE="XturnalS"]just thought that this godly thread needed a bump, can't wait till next week when the MGS collection comes out. Imma play so much MGS its gonna be amazing. can't wait for subsistance with the diff camera view. gonna be awesome. fuzzysquash

I'm debating whether or not I should get the collection...

It doesn't have the Metal Gear games, and since I already have MGS 1-3, I don't feel compelled to buy the same thing. But the box set is a very nice collector's item. To spend $30 or not to spend $30? 3 MGS games or 3 bags of QFC chicken? That is the question.

I'm getting it because I want unused copies of MGS1 and Substance. Substance is hard to find, and my copy of MGS1 would never load the second disk. I plan to play through them all over spring break, a huge MGS marathon!

Preordered today!! This thread was a big influence since i rarely ever preordered a game in like 20 years!! great thread FuzzMunch.. J/K about the name :D

That kid in 5th grade never gave me back my Jackel or Metal Gear that i let him borrow.... WOW, STRONG FLASHBACK!!

Preordered today!! This thread was a big influence since i rarely ever preordered a game in like 20 years!! great thread FuzzMunch.. J/K about the name :D

That kid in 5th grade never gave me back my Jackel or Metal Gear that i let him borrow.... WOW, STRONG FLASHBACK!!

Gamersince81

:lol: oh geez, I hope no one confuses me with him...

[QUOTE="fuzzysquash"]

[QUOTE="XturnalS"]just thought that this godly thread needed a bump, can't wait till next week when the MGS collection comes out. Imma play so much MGS its gonna be amazing. can't wait for subsistance with the diff camera view. gonna be awesome. Mordred19

I'm debating whether or not I should get the collection...

It doesn't have the Metal Gear games, and since I already have MGS 1-3, I don't feel compelled to buy the same thing. But the box set is a very nice collector's item. To spend $30 or not to spend $30? 3 MGS games or 3 bags of QFC chicken? That is the question.

I'm getting it because I want unused copies of MGS1 and Substance. Substance is hard to find, and my copy of MGS1 would never load the second disk. I plan to play through them all over spring break, a huge MGS marathon!

What are the special features in Substance?

[QUOTE="XturnalS"]just thought that this godly thread needed a bump, can't wait till next week when the MGS collection comes out. Imma play so much MGS its gonna be amazing. can't wait for subsistance with the diff camera view. gonna be awesome. fuzzysquash

I'm debating whether or not I should get the collection...

It doesn't have the Metal Gear games, and since I already have MGS 1-3, I don't feel compelled to buy the same thing. But the box set is a very nice collector's item. To spend $30 or not to spend $30? 3 MGS games or 3 bags of QFC chicken? That is the question.

[QUOTE="Gamersince81"]

Preordered today!! This thread was a big influence since i rarely ever preordered a game in like 20 years!! great thread FuzzMunch.. J/K about the name :D

That kid in 5th grade never gave me back my Jackel or Metal Gear that i let him borrow.... WOW, STRONG FLASHBACK!!

fuzzysquash

:lol: oh geez, I hope no one confuses me with him...

[QUOTE="fuzzysquash"]

[QUOTE="XturnalS"]just thought that this godly thread needed a bump, can't wait till next week when the MGS collection comes out. Imma play so much MGS its gonna be amazing. can't wait for subsistance with the diff camera view. gonna be awesome. Mordred19

I'm debating whether or not I should get the collection...

It doesn't have the Metal Gear games, and since I already have MGS 1-3, I don't feel compelled to buy the same thing. But the box set is a very nice collector's item. To spend $30 or not to spend $30? 3 MGS games or 3 bags of QFC chicken? That is the question.

I'm getting it because I want unused copies of MGS1 and Substance. Substance is hard to find, and my copy of MGS1 would never load the second disk. I plan to play through them all over spring break, a huge MGS marathon!

What are the special features in Substance?

over 200 VR missions, an altered Thermal Goggles image, cutscene viwer, choosing boss battles, playing as bonus characters like Grey Fox.

[QUOTE="fuzzysquash"]

[QUOTE="XturnalS"]just thought that this godly thread needed a bump, can't wait till next week when the MGS collection comes out. Imma play so much MGS its gonna be amazing. can't wait for subsistance with the diff camera view. gonna be awesome. jg4xchamp

I'm debating whether or not I should get the collection...

It doesn't have the Metal Gear games, and since I already have MGS 1-3, I don't feel compelled to buy the same thing. But the box set is a very nice collector's item. To spend $30 or not to spend $30? 3 MGS games or 3 bags of QFC chicken? That is the question.

:lol: No, I actually meant QFC--I live and breathe pre-made, microwavable chicken.

QFC chicken and Metal Gear? I think I'm getting hungry...

over 200 VR missions, an altered Thermal Goggles image, cutscene viwer, choosing boss battles, playing as bonus characters like Grey Fox.

Mordred19

Oh wow, some of those sound interesting, hmm....

[QUOTE="Mordred19"]

over 200 VR missions, an altered Thermal Goggles image, cutscene viwer, choosing boss battles, playing as bonus characters like Grey Fox.

fuzzysquash

Oh wow, some of those sound interesting, hmm....

you can even put different character models into different cutscenes, and they'll act out the motions. example: Solidus Snake holding Olga at gunpoint on the tanker.

[QUOTE="fuzzysquash"][QUOTE="Mordred19"]

over 200 VR missions, an altered Thermal Goggles image, cutscene viwer, choosing boss battles, playing as bonus characters like Grey Fox.

Mordred19

Oh wow, some of those sound interesting, hmm....

you can even put different character models into different cutscenes, and they'll act out the motions. example: Solidus Snake holding Olga at gunpoint on the tanker.

So if I play as Gray Fox, Gray Fox will show up in the cutscenes?

[QUOTE="Mordred19"][QUOTE="fuzzysquash"][QUOTE="Mordred19"]

over 200 VR missions, an altered Thermal Goggles image, cutscene viwer, choosing boss battles, playing as bonus characters like Grey Fox.

fuzzysquash

Oh wow, some of those sound interesting, hmm....

you can even put different character models into different cutscenes, and they'll act out the motions. example: Solidus Snake holding Olga at gunpoint on the tanker.

So if I play as Gray Fox, Gray Fox will show up in the cutscenes?

I believe so.

I believe so.

Mordred19

That would be sweet.

I was just looking at Amazon's description of the game and they said it includes "350+ VR missions and 150+ alternative missions." Do you know what "alternative missions" refers to?

I hate there's no colors!!!COBHC_reaper

What the Duck? This GAME is so freaking bright and colorful that people who suffer from epilepsy wont be allowed to play it.